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Topic locked 12474 posts • Page 298 of 499 • 1 ... 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301 ... 499 Bienenhalde Negotiator Posts: 5955 Founded: Mar 11, 2017 Authoritarian Democracy

by Bienenhalde » Wed May 20, 2020 3:39 pm

Sildorian Empire wrote:The New California Republic wrote:There are remnants of Norman culture left, but Munk saying that Norman culture is the culture of the current British upper class is just fucking laughably absurd.I'm pretty sure the upper class pretty much became uniformly German between the 1700s and 1900s, and then adopted "English" when German-ness suddenly became a bad thing in 1914. At this point, calling the "upper class" Norman is just stupid imo.Even if King George I mainly spoke German and barely any English, most lords and gentry at the time continued speaking English. And among his descendents, I think George III was the first to speak English primarily. So no, that is wrong, the upper-classes in 18th and 19th century England were still English. Top Salus Maior Postmaster of the Fleet Posts: 27813 Founded: Jun 16, 2014 Ex-Nation

by Salus Maior » Wed May 20, 2020 3:42 pm

Speaking of Anglo-Saxons and their nonsense, today is the feast day of St. Ethelbert the Royal Martyr.The Anglo-Saxon Prince who really only wanted to be a monk, but got sucked into Anglo politics because his dad made him, and ended up getting murdered by his father-in-law.Feels bad. Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial."In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum Top Fahran Post Marshal Posts: 19135 Founded: Nov 13, 2017 Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

by Fahran » Wed May 20, 2020 3:54 pm

Also, I will point out that discussing a particular nationalist movement in the RWDT doesn't necessarily constitute a thread-jack so long as it doesn't perpetually dominate discussion and doesn't devolve into other rule violations. We've discussed other nationalist movements before, including some that I personally find very unsavory. "Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."- Song of the Fallen Star Top Salus Maior Postmaster of the Fleet Posts: 27813 Founded: Jun 16, 2014 Ex-Nation

by Salus Maior » Wed May 20, 2020 3:57 pm

Fahran wrote:Also, I will point out that discussing a particular nationalist movement in the RWDT doesn't necessarily constitute a thread-jack so long as it doesn't perpetually dominate discussion and doesn't devolve into other rule violations. We've discussed other nationalist movements before, including some that I personally find very unsavory.True, but I think the whole "Northumbrian independence" thing is a bit old. Wouldn't mind a subject change. Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial."In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum Top Diopolis Post Marshal Posts: 17560 Founded: May 15, 2012 Iron Fist Consumerists

by Diopolis » Wed May 20, 2020 4:07 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Fahran wrote:Also, I will point out that discussing a particular nationalist movement in the RWDT doesn't necessarily constitute a thread-jack so long as it doesn't perpetually dominate discussion and doesn't devolve into other rule violations. We've discussed other nationalist movements before, including some that I personally find very unsavory.True, but I think the whole "Northumbrian independence" thing is a bit old. Wouldn't mind a subject change.Who would bigfoot vote for in 2020? Texas nationalist, 3rd positionist, radical social conservative, post-liberal. Top Salus Maior Postmaster of the Fleet Posts: 27813 Founded: Jun 16, 2014 Ex-Nation

by Salus Maior » Wed May 20, 2020 4:08 pm

Diopolis wrote:Salus Maior wrote:True, but I think the whole "Northumbrian independence" thing is a bit old. Wouldn't mind a subject change.Who would bigfoot vote for in 2020?The Queen. Bigfoot is a royalist. Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial."In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum Top Diopolis Post Marshal Posts: 17560 Founded: May 15, 2012 Iron Fist Consumerists

by Diopolis » Wed May 20, 2020 4:09 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Diopolis wrote:Who would bigfoot vote for in 2020?The Queen. Bigfoot is a royalist.I dunno, John McAfee seems more up his alley. Texas nationalist, 3rd positionist, radical social conservative, post-liberal. Top Italios Post Marshal Posts: 17520 Founded: Dec 19, 2014 Ex-Nation

by Italios » Wed May 20, 2020 4:11 pm

i feel like i'm morally obligated to support munkcestrian's quest for northumbrian independence considering i support most european separatist movements. dude, pass me your paypal and i'll unironically toss a dollar your way if you promise me it goes to a "free northumbria" poster. Issue Author #1461: No Shirt, No Shoes, No ID, No Service. Top Cekoviu Post Marshal Posts: 16954 Founded: Oct 18, 2017 Ex-Nation

by Cekoviu » Wed May 20, 2020 4:32 pm

by Salus Maior » Wed May 20, 2020 4:33 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Italios wrote:i feel like i'm morally obligated to support munkcestrian's quest for northumbrian independence considering i support most european separatist movements. dude, pass me your paypal and i'll unironically toss a dollar your way if you promise me it goes to a "free northumbria" poster.you're not a REAL euroseparatist unless you support ａｄｙｇｅａｎ　ｉｎｄｅｐｅｎｄｅｎｃｅ, pal""independent norfumbria"" is child's play~Adygean? Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial."In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum Top Cekoviu Post Marshal Posts: 16954 Founded: Oct 18, 2017 Ex-Nation

by Cekoviu » Wed May 20, 2020 4:34 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Cekoviu wrote:you're not a REAL euroseparatist unless you support ａｄｙｇｅａｎ　ｉｎｄｅｐｅｎｄｅｎｃｅ, pal""independent norfumbria"" is child's play~Adygean?>не и знает, где адыгея pro: women's rightsanti: men's rights Top Salus Maior Postmaster of the Fleet Posts: 27813 Founded: Jun 16, 2014 Ex-Nation

by Salus Maior » Wed May 20, 2020 4:38 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Salus Maior wrote:Adygean?>не и знает, где адыгеяAh, I gotcha.I thought you might have been misspelling Aegean. Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial."In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum Top The New California Republic Post Czar Posts: 35482 Founded: Jun 06, 2011 Civil Rights Lovefest

by The New California Republic » Wed May 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Italios wrote:i feel like i'm morally obligated to support munkcestrian's quest for northumbrian independence considering i support most european separatist movements. dude, pass me your paypal and i'll unironically toss a dollar your way if you promise me it goes to a "free northumbria" poster.You sure you want to do that? The only other person that he could point to that was part of this "movement" was a guy with a twitter account which was shitting out racist and antisemitic epithets. Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.White-collared conservatives flashing down the streetPointing their plastic finger at meThey're hoping soon, my kind will drop and dieBut I'm going to wave my freak flag highWave on, wave on|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Top Jack Thomas Lang Ambassador Posts: 1856 Founded: Apr 18, 2019 Ex-Nation

by Jack Thomas Lang » Wed May 20, 2020 5:04 pm

Cekoviu wrote:>не и знает, где адыгеяYou don't need the i, you can just say ne znayet. You probably don't need the comma. Top Cekoviu Post Marshal Posts: 16954 Founded: Oct 18, 2017 Ex-Nation

by Cekoviu » Wed May 20, 2020 5:13 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Cekoviu wrote:>не и знает, где адыгеяYou don't need the i, you can just say ne znayet. You probably don't need the comma.wow totally btfo'd jeez pro: women's rightsanti: men's rights Top Jack Thomas Lang Ambassador Posts: 1856 Founded: Apr 18, 2019 Ex-Nation

by Jack Thomas Lang » Wed May 20, 2020 5:16 pm

Cekoviu wrote:wow totally btfo'd jeezAlso, I wouldn't really write it that way. I can imagine saying that in conversation, but "doesn't know where Adygia is" as a written sentence is iffy. I guess it would be fine in an informal and conversational forum like this though. Top Cekoviu Post Marshal Posts: 16954 Founded: Oct 18, 2017 Ex-Nation

by Cekoviu » Wed May 20, 2020 5:21 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Cekoviu wrote:wow totally btfo'd jeezAlso, I wouldn't really write it that way. I can imagine saying that in conversation, but "doesn't know where Adygia is" as a written sentence is iffy. I guess it would be fine in an informal and conversational forum like this though.i mean, i did use a meme arrow, so i think that gives me some grammatical leeway Last edited by Cekoviu on Wed May 20, 2020 5:21 pm, edited 1 time in total. pro: women's rightsanti: men's rights Top Jack Thomas Lang Ambassador Posts: 1856 Founded: Apr 18, 2019 Ex-Nation

by Jack Thomas Lang » Wed May 20, 2020 5:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:i mean, i did use a meme arrow, so i think that gives me some grammatical leewayOh yeah, that definitely does. Missed it completely. Top Diopolis Post Marshal Posts: 17560 Founded: May 15, 2012 Iron Fist Consumerists

by Diopolis » Wed May 20, 2020 5:56 pm

by Munkcestrian RepubIic » Wed May 20, 2020 6:13 pm

by Munkcestrian RepubIic » Wed May 20, 2020 6:18 pm

The New California Republic wrote:Italios wrote:i feel like i'm morally obligated to support munkcestrian's quest for northumbrian independence considering i support most european separatist movements. dude, pass me your paypal and i'll unironically toss a dollar your way if you promise me it goes to a "free northumbria" poster.You sure you want to do that? The only other person that he could point to that was part of this "movement" was a guy with a twitter account which was shitting out racist and antisemitic epithets.There are more people involved than just him on Twitter. I disagree with those views entirely. Apparently there was some "Identity Northumbria" going on a while back, I recall those stickers with Northumbrian flag colours and all in Newcastle, so yeah no shit some people in the Northumbrian nationalist can be pretty unpleasant otherwise.Yeah, while googling for this post I found this. MUNKCESTRIAN REPUBLICFORTITERDEFENDITTRIUMPHANSformerly Munkchester — formerly Munkcestrian Republic — he/him/hisPro-Slavery AllianceNEWS: Fenwicks return to Munkchester Top Munkcestrian RepubIic Ambassador Posts: 1824 Founded: May 05, 2020 Right-wing Utopia

by Munkcestrian RepubIic » Wed May 20, 2020 6:23 pm

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:The New California Republic wrote:You sure you want to do that? The only other person that he could point to that was part of this "movement" was a guy with a twitter account which was shitting out racist and antisemitic epithets.There are more people involved than just him on Twitter. I disagree with those views entirely. Apparently there was some "Identity Northumbria" going on a while back, I recall those stickers with Northumbrian flag colours and all in Newcastle, so yeah no shit some people in the Northumbrian nationalist can be pretty unpleasant otherwise.Yeah, while googling for this post I found this.alright, confession time: I became a Northumbrian nationalist because I was interested in Anglo-Saxon stuff but really, really, really put off by the 'Englisc' nationalist types and at the time I was a progressive Labour type and all (i'd still be put off by the 'Englisc' nationalist types) and I thought Northumbrian nationalism wouldn't be tainted by any of that so I basically consciously decided to do that instead. I was, as I later found out, completely and utterly wrong. MUNKCESTRIAN REPUBLICFORTITERDEFENDITTRIUMPHANSformerly Munkchester — formerly Munkcestrian Republic — he/him/hisPro-Slavery AllianceNEWS: Fenwicks return to Munkchester Top Mostrov Minister Posts: 2730 Founded: Aug 06, 2009 Ex-Nation

by Mostrov » Wed May 20, 2020 10:42 pm

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Bienenhalde wrote:Do you have a problem with hunting, provided it is done sustainably so that no species is overhunted?my response is english hunters good (feed your family), norman hunters bad (tear fox apart for fun)It isn't as though snaring is a horrible and cruel way to kill an animal. Or that the working class has historically engaged in much cruelty to animals. As an aside, in Iran, where they still have wolves, they will naturally "tear a fox apart for fun": yet the Iranian government has yet to rule it illegal—what distinction is there between something that happens in nature than if a human does it? The only reason you care for Fox Hunting at all is because it is a class issue, one which you can continue your bizarre version of class warfare through. You a 'class warrior'. I've met the type regularly enough: one which grows up in a left-leaning labour home and is so used to caricature the upper class as the source of all their woes, so that you castigate them as being of a different ethnicity altogether. Its all very interesting, but completely wrong, as you have no knowledge of the current state of the 'upper class' and no personal acquaintance with anyone who would belong to it.Historically, anyway, Norman Hunters thought that fox hunting was beneath them. The current iteration of a Hunt is quite recent and much more English, and middle class, than you would give credit for.Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Tatler's Irony: Conspicuous Consumption, Inconspicuous Power and Social Change by Sallie McNamara, which offers some cool insights on the magazine that loved Diana Mitford and is basically the only British publication that actually, literally makes me feel nauseous (for reference, not even the Daily Mail accomplishes that) and how even when you completely surrender to the Norman aristocracy they will still hate you because of what you are (but the fact the Conservatives got 30% in 1997 says a lot already, I suppose)Tatler is fine, although a shadow of its former self. Country Life is more representative in a way. Do you wonder why they might hate you after a century of class warfare?Why should I care that the stewardship of this country has been handed over to merchant bankers, when the consistent class warfare has so demonized the actual upper-class of the nation that they were forced to surrender all power?Sildorian Empire wrote:I'm pretty sure the upper class pretty much became uniformly German between the 1700s and 1900s, and then adopted "English" when German-ness suddenly became a bad thing in 1914. At this point, calling the "upper class" Norman is just stupid imo."uniformly"Please tell me where you read such wrong-headed opinions? Last edited by Mostrov on Wed May 20, 2020 10:44 pm, edited 1 time in total. Top Munkcestrian RepubIic Ambassador Posts: 1824 Founded: May 05, 2020 Right-wing Utopia

by Munkcestrian RepubIic » Wed May 20, 2020 11:19 pm

"The only reason you care for Fox Hunting at all is because it is a class issue" — yes. this is not the gotcha you think it is."I've met the type regularly enough: one which grows up in a left-leaning labour home and is so used to caricature the upper class as the source of all their woes" — my maternal grandparents are Thatcherite Tories who took me to Conservative Association meetings (my paternal grandfather, of course, was a National Front-CPGB swing voter). my first political experience was, disgustingly enough, being a Cameron-supporting Tory. you don't know anything about me."Its all very interesting, but completely wrong, as you have no knowledge of the current state of the 'upper class' and no personal acquaintance with anyone who would belong to it." — actually I'm one of those hypocrites who (briefly) went to a private school. I am two degrees (through friends' parents being one-up-from-acquaintances/friends with) from politicians the likes of Anne-Marie Trevelyan, Guy Opperman, and the Viscount Ridley. "no personal acquaintance" = WRONG."Historically, anyway, Norman Hunters thought that fox hunting was beneath them." — what animal was 'good enough' for them, then? Bambi's mother?"The current iteration of a Hunt is quite recent and much more English, and middle class, than you would give credit for." — I believe I've talked about the Normanising middle class before."Country Life is more representative in a way." — yeah, Country Life counted as really interesting reading when I was 5."Do you wonder why they might hate you after a century of class warfare?" — way more than a century, bud.Me sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!! Me reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck."Why should I care that the stewardship of this country has been handed over to merchant bankers, when the consistent class warfare has so demonized the actual upper-class of the nation that they were forced to surrender all power?" — the new "upper-upper-middle class" is sure doing a great job at behaving almost exactly like the upper class they've supposedly replaced. Last edited by Munkcestrian RepubIic on Wed May 20, 2020 11:20 pm, edited 1 time in total. MUNKCESTRIAN REPUBLICFORTITERDEFENDITTRIUMPHANSformerly Munkchester — formerly Munkcestrian Republic — he/him/hisPro-Slavery AllianceNEWS: Fenwicks return to Munkchester Top Dylar Negotiator Posts: 7019 Founded: Jan 07, 2016 Democratic Socialists

by Dylar » Thu May 21, 2020 2:23 am

Cekoviu wrote:Salus Maior wrote:Adygean?>не и знает, где адыгеяDamn, that anthem is really good. Alright, Adygean independence as long as they can keep making some good shit like that. St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.Pro: Life, Catholic, religious freedom, gunsAgainst: gun control, abortion, militant atheismInterests: Video Games, Military History, Catholic theology, Sci-Fi, and Table-Top Miniatures gamesFavorite music genres: Metal, Drinking songs, Polka, Military Marches, Hardbass, and Movie/Video Game soundtracks Top Topic locked 12474 posts • Page 298 of 499 • 1 ... 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301 ... 499

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